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me, that is true. "cnn newsroom" continues "cnn newsroom" continues with brooke baldwin. -- captions by vitac -- thank you. i want to begin with the flowing mighty mississippi and it is flowing so that it would take one single second to fill 30 football fields 30-feet deep. n't the rising water is no surprise here, but the mississippi has been slowly swelling to record levels as people on the banks pull out everything in the playbook to try to control it. we are watching the army corps of engineers to blow up a large levee in missouri flooding acres of farmland to save one town in illinois. it was multiple exclosings as we told you about the one last week. well, today, they opened up the floodgates further up from new orleans, a and iand the reason twofold, because if one of the levees folds, we could have a
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major disaster on our hands and to prevent more rising. i want to go to look at the river which is half a mile wide, and now in downtown memphis, it is three miles across. so tell me where you are standing david mattingly, and how deep it is right there. >> well, brooke, this is an interesting location. this is river front drive, and back behind me is where it intersects beale street, that famous street for entertainment in memphis, and fortunately all of the bars and the clubs are on the hillside, but down here where it meets the river, you can see the water coming in. we are almost to the crest. we are just inches away from this river reaching its highest point here in memphis. it will be short of a record, but this is historic flooding. no one here has seen anything like this in generations. strangely enough, while we see this massive amount of water along the waterfront and along the mississippi, the problems around memphis have been on the tributary, and those are the
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rivers that normally empty into the mississippi and they have no place for their water to go, so it is backing up and we have been seeing flooding around low lying areas in memphis encompassing some neighborhoods, some trailer parks, and we have 300 to 400 people in shelters and they are probably going to be in the shelters for quite some time. because, as this water took days to get here, brooke, it is going to take weeks for it to leave. the mississippi, you were talking about, let's look over this way real quick, and you said how it is a half mile originally, and this is what a three-mile-wide mississippi river looks like. that is going to take probably until june before this river gets back into its banks. >> wow. so that -- weeks and weeks, and they will have quite a bit of a while to deal with this, but david, what about the levee system? the floodwall system in memphis? do we know yet how it is holding up? how it will hold up when this
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river finally crests? >> okay. now we are going if go around back to the other side since you asked that question. the officials here in memphis are confident that the floodwalls and the banks that they have built around this city will work. you can see the protection here, and what they have been looking at are these systems put in place since the last great flood in 1937. this is one big bank and one example to show you. and you see the people up there walking on top. but what we have working here is a system that was put in place after the great flood of 1937, and that has been built to withstand that historic flood and then some. we are not going to get to that record this time, and they feel very confident that all of the protection they have in place is going to work, but because of the water going to stay here for so long, brooke, they are actually going be looking at it closely over the coming weeks to make sure there are not any weaknesses in there, and if they do see anything, they will act
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on them quickly, but right now, everything is holding and working the way it should be in spite of scenes like this, memphis making out a whole lot better than it did in the 1930s. >> yeah, and in that shot a moment ago, you can see the people walking up behind you and i was reading that it is a tourist attraction for people to just see the places where the river is now three miles wide, but in terms of the people who are not sticking around and don't want to see the river and have to get out of town and out of their homes, what are you hearing in terms of evacuations in memphis? >> well, the people who have been affected, the property that has been affected and we are talking about thousands and the people who have had to leave their homes because they are inundated, we are talking hundreds. now, at this point though, we are looking at the broader implications of this, and the people whose businesses may be affected and the people whose travel plans impacted and that could be in the thousands to ten thousands, brooke. >> and what about beale street, because you have the pyramid arena and graceland and, you know, b.b. king's blues club
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there on bieeale and are they expected to be affected? >> well, i talked to the manager at b.b. kings and she said this is the biggest month, because they have the big barbeque cook off there next weekend and lot of people here and a sellout situation, and that is normally to take place right over there, and naturally the river has that covered up, and it is not going to be empty any time soon. >> you are pointing to the the river. >> yessings the a ingyes, the as right over there where the river is, and they had to move the barbeque contest to high ground to a stadium where they will have it so that the people who go there won't be able to come down here to eat the barbeque and walk the beale street so that manager was not good that this is a good may for them, but you talked about the tourism, and tourists coming down here and looking at the river, but the river is always a great
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attraction they come down here for so many things, and mud island is one of the places they like to go to. a lot of the attractions there are under water there, and as well as a couple of homes that are getting hit with the water on the other end of the island. >> yeah, yeah, it is stunning to look at at it behind you and think of how much worse it can get down river. david mattingly, we will check in with u you nyou next hour. and chad myers, this is a statistic and this is from a colonel who says that this is memphis specifically the water moving 2 million cubic feet per second, so in other words to put it in his analogy in one single second the water will fill up an entire football field 44 feet deep. >> and think of the power. it is not just sitting there, but moving. it is scouring the levees. we will hear about some words, and you know, every time there is something we get new words.
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aboil, abreak or overtop, and the aboil is the worst one, because it stars out of nowhere and it is where the water digs under the levees and all of the sudden, it looks like mud is boiling on the wrong side, the side that is to be dry, and water coming all of the way up, and there is a tremendous downward pressure of your -- if you are a scuba diver you know going down 44 feet, you are down three atmospheres and all of the water is trying t ting the to gd under and it can dig under and boil that mud away and when that starts then you have the little dutch boy with the finger in the dike, that won't work, because you have to put in sandbags and emergency precautions and situations as the army corps is going up and down the levees to make sure they are all not breaking now. >> still, because of the precautions we saw the people in mattingly's live shot where people say it is a tourist attraction and to see the beautiful mississippi and now video of the kids playing in the water in the mississippi? >> it is very bad. it is very, very bad water.
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there will be pesticides, fertilizer, and there are sewage treatment plants over top, and septic tanks and stuff in that water that you don't want to think about. and that stuff is going into lake pontchartrain, because they opened up the bonnet carre spillway, and when that gets in there, it should be brakish and salty, but now all of this is going to try to get out, and some won't make it, and i believe there is going to be an algae bloom like no other, but for the people in louisiana and that is going to be a big story. >> and we will talk about that in a matter of minutes, but in terms of rain, is there a respi respite? >> yes, they are done. we take two to three inches of water to make another foot higher and memphis is done, and everybody below memphis from memphis to the gulf of mexico, they are not done, because the
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water will rise coming up. >> and that is what we are talking about next coming up. don't go too far, mr. myers. our continuing coverage of the rising mississippi will be coming up, and we will speak to the leader of the army corps of engineers and what the impact of the opening of the spillways and the gateways will impact the homes in that area, and we will talk to illinois governor pat quinn who surveyed the damage in his state, and he will tell us what he saw firsthand coming up. and first, the price of the pump pennies away atoping the $4 a gallon amount. and there is good news coming. so i will tell you that. and first this -- >> i go running and i see this guy with his hand on the door and two guys try to hold him,
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we want to check some other top stories now. first pakistan is setting some ground rules for u.s. investigators who want to question osama bin laden's wives. this is one of them. there are five. three were captured at his
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compound in abottabad, and senior sources are saying that pakistan will allow u.s. the investigate the wives only if the country of origin gives the green light, the okay. pakistan says that bin laden's family members will be sent back to their home countries once they are interrogated. also, a daring escape in libyaer for the woman who claims she was beaten and raped by moammar gadhafi's forces. imam al obeidy is safe now in qatar. she was helped to escape over to tunisia last thursday and went through various government checkpoints by using the military documents, and she is overjoyed to be out of libya. ready to see something remarkable? this is dallas weams walking into the room helped out a little bit, but he is the first person in the united states to get a full face transplant. doctors at brigham and women's
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hospital in boston gave him new nose, lips, skin, muscles and nerves in a 15-hour surgery just back in march. weams is a construction worker who was critically burned in a high voltage power line accident in 2008, and today, he sat there and spoke about how he felt right after that full facial transplant. >> when i woke up, and i felt that i had features again of an eyes and nose and mouth and i thought, this is not medically possible, because it doesn't seem like it should be, but here i am today. >> how about that? weams says he has relied on his faith to get him through the whole ordeal. and new details in the case of the possible long island serial killers and investigators say minutes ago they are appearing to deal with more than one killer and they add that the area of where several remains are found appears to be used for a dumping ground for bodies for several years. investigators say that one
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killer went to great lengths to hide the identity of one of the victims, and she was dismembered and her body parts were dumped in two separate locations, and the killer also tried to scratch off her tattoo, and coming up next hour, i will speak with a former new york state detective about what he makes of the new details eking out in the last few minutes. we will talk to him next hour, don't miss that. and for weeks we are charting the steady and dare i say painful rise in gas prices. the national average close to the $4 mark. and guess what? prices may have topped out afterall. the price per gallon has fallen every single day since last thursday, but don't high five it, yet, because it is way up there, and $3.96 is the national average. look at what it was just one year ago, ah, $2.91 and the reason for the up and down, and it is complicated because the oil companies and the speculators and lot has to do with the news headlines. allan chernoff, there he is with
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me in new york, to help me make sense of this, and i know that allan n a new cnn opinion research poll is out, and how worried are people? everyone i know is worried about the gas prices, and what are you hearing? >> well, indeed, mighty worried and that is good news about the prices, because crude may be jumping back up, because it is up today. and the vast majority of americans say that the gas prices are either a major problem or crisis. 16% of those folks are in the crisis camp. so clearly people are feeling serious pain at the pump. when americans pay more for gas, they often cut back on other spending, and brooke, that could hit the economic recovery. >> how specifically how are people having to cut back, because many, many people are, because of the, you know, the, you know, people paying $60 or $80 to fill up the tank? >> yeah, when you see the numbers, it hurts, and the biggest change is right at the
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pump. 63% of americans are cutting back on driving, and it seems more people are car pooling, driving less for entertainment, and in fact, have a look at, this 39% of people are changing their vacation plan s because o high gas prices and we saw nit 2008 when the staycation became popular and the staycation is popular once again. and finally more than 60% of people consider buying a fuel efficient vehicle and we have had evidence of that. the automakers released the sales numbers and smaller fuel efficient vehicles like the ford focus and the chevy cruz were especially hot. >> and like i said the gas prices are going up and down and so far you say they are going up, but allan chernoff, when are they going down, a, and what is to blame for this, b? >> well, they typically do go up in advance of the summer driving season, so i don't think that we can necessarily be very hopeful, but maybe if things cool off in the middle east we will get better news. now the overwhelming majority of
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people are blaming oil companies, exxonmobil, and bp shell, and chevron who earned over $1 billion in the first quarter, and these are giant companies, but remember, they do not set the price of oil, because it is created on the open market, which brings us to speculators and many people are blaming speculators in the futures market for pushing up the prices. foreign countries and the unrest in the middle east are on the top of the of the blame list, but look at the bottom, even the obama administration is getting blam blamed from one quarter of those surveyed, but brooke, i don't know if the president had much to do with it. >> well, if you are the guy in charge, it makes for an easy scapegoat situation. thank you, allan, very much. now, listen to this. >> a passenger from the coach section of the airplane walked into the first class cabin and approached the cockpit door of the flight deck. >> that passenger is now behind bars, but why did he try to
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barge inside of the cockpit of an american airlines plane? we are getting more details of that. we will pass them along. and the wives left behind by osama bin laden, the u.s. wants to talk to them, and pakistan says maybe, because we will tell you the terms of the the agreement coming up. ♪ na, na... ♪ na, na-na, na [ men ] ♪ hey, hey, hey ♪ goodbye [ male announcer ] with kohler's powerful, high-efficiency toilets. flush. and done. [ all ] ♪ hey, hey, hey ♪ good-bye
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have you heard what happened in the air last night? okay. so, this is a flight to san francisco. the man gets up and approaches
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the cockpit and resists the flight attendant and starts to bang on the cockpit door and here is the official account of what happened. >> the flight attendant called for help and passengers from the first class section an along with other flight attendants assisted the flight attendant and some flexible plastic handcuffs were used by the flight attendant to secure the hands of that passenger. that passenger was then placed into a first-class seat where he was held until the flight arrived at sfo. >> here is what we are learning, that man has a yemeni passport and still being held, and we will talk about him more in a moment, but it was a strange day all around. let me back up. a delta flight from detroit to san diego made this unscheduled stop in albuquerque after a flight attendant discovered a suspicious note in the lavatory. and the note's origin are still unknown, and then a continental flight, chicago to houston and a man described as unruly made a
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break for the emergency exit, and the man was left with feds at an unscheduled flight in st. louis, and the harrowing scene that we told you about a second ago also happened onb a flight from chicago, but the plane was not actually diverted. as you heard the police say that the man who allegedly rushed to the cockpit was handcuffed, and you can catch a quick glimpse of him there in the back of the patrol car and as we said, he had a yemeni passport, and thelma gutierrez is live for me in los angeles. thelma, i know you have been digging on this, but what do we know about this guy? >> well, brooke, according to the san mateo police, he was handed over the the fbi this morning and expected to be charged with disrupting a flight crew which is a federal offense. we are not sure where he is currently detained. the police told us that the fbi is involved, because the incident happened in the air which is federal jurisdiction. one law enforcement official told cnn that he had no known ties to any terrorist organization, and that he
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appeared to have quote mental problems. now we do know that he is 28 years old and a resident of valle vallejo, california, and up in the bay area, and a lot of questions. >> do we know, thelma, how far into the flight that the 28-year-old tried to rush the cockpit? >> well, this flight, when you talk to the witnesses, was actually a normal flight until 30 minutes before the flight was about to land. now, witnesses say that who were aboard that american airlines flight from chicago to san francisco say that everything appeared to be normal and then on dissideent, that is when he approached the first class and started pounding on the cockpit door, and mumbling something. police are not sure what he said and maybe in arabic, but they said that after that altercation last night, he was transported to a local hospital where he was treated for cuts and abrasions to the arm, because a male
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flight attendant and passengers helped to subdue him, and according to the "san francisco chronicle" one was a police officer and another an off-duty police officer in the los angeles area. >> frightening. thank you for that report. now this -- >> pakistan cannot be held in account for fraud policies, and pakistan is not the birthplace of al qaeda. >> pakistan is pushing back. the prime minister says that they knew nothing of osama bin laden's whereabouts, so is america's relationship with the country beginning to fray? we will tackle that next. and plus, dams and levees and spillways an man's only defense against the mighty mississippi river. we will go behind the mad dash to thwart another katrina scenario down south. stay right there. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars
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all right. we are just getting in some news here from nasa. remember the space shuttle "endeavour" was scrubbed two fridays ago because of technical issues with the heaters. we are learning that it will be rescheduled and the new launch date is monday may 16th in the morning. remember, i was talking to sawn ja gupta last friday and he is reporting that congresswoman giffords will be traveling back to florida to see her husband and five other astronauts launch into space. it is monday, may 16th, at 9:00
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in the morning. and do not blame pakistan that osama bin laden was hiding out on pakistani soil for five years all the while that pakistan was insisting he was not there. and now in a speech to parliament the pakistani prime minister says, hey, guys, washington, look in the mirror. listen. >> pakistan alone cannot be held to account for flawed policy. pakistan is not the birthplace of al qaeda. we did not invite osama bin laden to pakistan, but even near pakistan. >> also, curious time, because a pakistani newspaper is print the name of a man they identify as a cia chief which smacks of retaliation, and so reza ghailani, can you tell us how
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osama bin laden did manage to hide out in pakistan for five years? >> well, brooke, the closest to an explanation that he came to is when he called it a pakistani intelligence failure, but he added that it was a global intelligence failure, and so essentially he said that everyone is to blame. i don't think that this is something that washington and the obama administration wanted to hear. i think that the obama administration wanted the prime minister to come out and acknowledge that there is a security issue here in pakistan, and for pakistan to embark on a new direction of perhaps a new foreign policy when it comes to extremism, and that did not happen. this is a speech that was filled with nationalistic rhetoric and filled with attempts to deflect accountability, and he also hit back against the u.s. he suggested that it was the u.s. that was partly to blame for the birth of al qaeda. he said it was the u.s. that in the 1980s afghani jihad against the soviet occupation of afghanistan, it was the u.s. who
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paid for and cultivated and supported islamist mujahadine, and it is that movement that gave birth to al qaeda. a lot of people will dispute that, but that is the prime minister's claim, and no indication that pakistan is going to go in a new direction. very defensive prime minister today. >> and saying that the bombing in tora bora meant na some of the members of pakistan headed into the area as well. and reza, you may not give me an answer, but folks want to know if the head of the bureau at pakistan outed the cia chief that was there overwatching the bin laden compound, and what can you tell me? >> well, that is an episode that drives home some of the troubles that pakistan and the u.s. are facing. this was an article that came out in the pakistani newspaper, and allegedly named, and therefore outed the cia station chief here in islamabad. and once you blow a cia station
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chief's identity, obviously, washington has to pull him out and it has happened here before in islamabad, and the u.s. officials are neither confirming nor denying and they say they don't plan on pulling the cia station chief, but on the other hand, a pakistani official is denying that this is happening. but the bigger issue here is that the fact that the allegations are happening. it is really underscores the volatile, and the uncertain, and adversarial sometimes relationship that pakistan and the u.s. has. this is two countries that are supposed to be partners in this crucial fight against extremism, but they are finger pointing. >> one final question. we hear that some of the wives of bin laden are talking, but the u.s. has not had a chance to interrogate them yet. what kind of information are they sharing and what about this condition that pakistan is essentially saying to the u.s. that in order to the talk to the wives the u.s. has to do what? >> yeah, well, the plan for pakistan is to repatriate these
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three wives and the eight or nine children and send them back home. one is from yemen and not clear where the others are from. and obviously the u.s. wants access to the wives, because they could have a lot of information and could have information that could also implicate pakistan's security establishment and the pakistani official told us that they will only consider giving the u.s. access to these women once their origin countries have been notified, and it is not clear when that will happen, but it is going to be a barometer of where this partnership stands between the u.s. and pakistan. if they deny washington access to these women, you can be sure that there is going to be more finger pointing and more accusations. >> reza sayah, live in islamabad, thank you. and with regard to the whole compound that was raided the cia says it could fill a small college library with the sea of intelligence that the navy s.e.a.l.s snagged from the compound, but time is of the
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essence here for investigators. and up next, what they are looking for and can they find it in time? what's this option? that's new.
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for the longest time we have heard that al qaeda is on the run, but now bin laden has been deader for a week, and i want you to listen to what the president said last night on "60
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minutes." >> we have the opportunity i think to really finally defeat at least al qaeda in the border region between pakistan and afghanistan. >> so, the president is now saying that if we get this right, we have the chance right now to turn the lights out on al qaeda as an entire organization. he says that the government is putting everything that he has got into analyzing the intelligence and the thumb drives and the computers raided in bin laden's compound raid in order to act on it asap. mike bake ser a ser is a forme covert operator, and mike, the key here is speed, right? you have to get the intel, and you know, get the intel quickly, before the roaches scatter so to speak? >> right. it is a footrace. and it is a kind of beat the clock. it has been ever since they retrieved the material and got it back to where it could be analyzed and exploited and all
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hands on deck in terms of the language specialists, and forensic capability and operational personnel who have the most experience in that region and with this organization. because what are you looking for? you are looking for all of the cell phone and all of the computers and the thumb drives and anything that will lead you potentially to a physical asset whether it is a person or al qaeda member or supporter or whether it is a bank account or phone number that will lead you to a person and whatever the identity may be, a safehouse, so you are rushing to get all of the actionable intel yeligence it is a massive effort, and at the same time on the other side of the fence as you pointed out you have al qaeda and all of of the personnel scrambling to relocate or to dump phones or to change accounts, whatever it might be, so you can imagine the effort that is under way at this point. >> right. it makes sense that the race is on right now, and in terms of al qaeda overall, we were talking to senator dick durbin in the
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studio here friday and he said virtually nothing left of al qaeda in afghanistan, and what is left in pakistan? >> well, i think that we are all getting ahead of ourselves if we think this is the immediate death knell of al qaeda -- >> you don't think it is? >> no, i don't think it is. i think that this, this haul, this intelligence set potentially, because it is speculative and still going through it, but what it means in terms of the serious blow the al qaeda is important and i'm not minimizing that and nor the actual death of bin laden, but we have to understand that this is a flat oorganization. this is not some organization that was, you know, commanded at the top, even though we are thinking that bin laden appeared to have more of an operational role, we don't want to read too much into that, because they have an intelligence committee and they have capable people in al qaeda that i think that we are getting out ahead of ourselves and it is quick here to say it is all over as far as al qaeda goes, and we want to be cautious about this. >> and then you have al qaeda in
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the arabian peninsula, and aqap, and then a drone shot against al awlaki, and is that franchise, the links here enough that the intel that we are getting might lead us to al awlaki who is obviously very, very dangerous? >> well, absolutely. and, you know, we have to hope, and, you know, likelihood is that some of the information that we will pull off of this, and remember that the courier was a part of this and both leading us to abottabad in the compound and the go between in some respects for bin laden and other serious members of al qaeda, so you have to assume whether it is the cell phone or some of the material on computers is going to be immediately actionable and could leads us to the senior members or other operational important persons within al qaeda. >> within al qaeda, and al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, and
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who knows where else. thank you, mike baker. talk to you next time. and back here in the united states, the engineers are trying to hold back the historic floodwaters as the mighty mississippi makes a surge toward the gulf. we will talk about what they are doing, and if it will actually work next. like it's some kind of dream. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 it's either this magic number i'm supposed to reach, or... tdd# 1-800-345-2550 it's beach homes or it's starting a vineyard. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 come on ! tdd# 1-800-345-2550 just help me figure it out tdd# 1-800-345-2550 in a practical, let's-make- this-happen kind of way. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 a vineyard ? schwab real life retirement services is personalized, tdd# 1-800-345-2550 practical help that's focused on making your retirement real. open an account today and talk to chuck tdd# 1-800-345-2550 about setting up your one-on-one consultation. tdd# 1-800-345-2550
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many roads are now rivers near the mighty mississippi river. this is historic flooding happening right now. take a look at the picture that we are getting from you, the i-reporters in memphis, tennessee, and the river is at the highest level since 1937 when flooding killed some 500 people there, and thousands of homeowners are affected by this flooding in memphis alone 300 to 400 are sitting in shelters today, and after that horrible 1937 flood, engineers built this whole system of levees designed to withstand that level of flooding in the future, and soer farer, it is holding up. here is what the army corps did today to help relieve the pressure on the levees down the stream. they opened up this spillway northwest of new orleans. so the levee system is doing what it is built to do so far, and look, all of us have the fingers crossed that it continues to work, but a lot of people are watching this and they are worrying. i want to bring in retired major general thomas sands who knows a lot about how the levees work. he used to be with the army
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corps of engineers and he joins us now. tom, let's start with the bonnet carre spillway northwest of new orleans and can you explain to us what a lot of rus learning what the spillway does -- so what is the goal essentially here? >> well, several spillways and floodways that have been designed within the mississippi river and tributary system to offer relief flowage of the main stem of the mississippi river to impact the stages not only below the stillway or the floodway but above it. in bonnet carre in particular, it is designed to alleviate the stages between the bonnet carre and the gulf of mexico. maximum, it is designed to carry is about 250,000 cubic feet per second. >> so less pressure then on the levees around new orleans, thus, diverting the water through pontchartrain to the gulf, but
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as i'm bringing chad meyers in, he has explained to me, that we know that, look, the mississippi river is not the cleanest place in the world, and pesticides, et cetera, and i have been to pontchartrain and covered the tarballs back when that was an issue, right, and people love the pontchartrain and swim in pontchartrain, and how will this affect people's summers? >> well, every time the spillway is opened, you do have flows from the river obviously that go through there and that carries a lot more sedimentn that you wil get nach turally that runs off the pontchartrain, so you will have a significant change as you get closer to the outlets into the mississippi gulf that will impact the solemnity, and you will have a change of the brakish water to the normal
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freshwater environment, so it is going to change the character of the fishing that is in lake pontchartrain, and it is also going to have some potential impact in the short term on probably the slhrimpping in the area. >> this is chad myers, will there be an algae bloom like in the past? >> well, you can anticipate that, because every time the spillway is opened, there have been some sort of algae bloom that collects on the south shore of the lake. don't know what it is going to be, but there will be some impact. >> let's move on to morganza spillway and what happens when that opens? sdwlel >> well, you have another relief valve that carries a major portion of the flood flows. the basic design of the mississippi river and tributary project is to manage a design flow of about 3 million cubic
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feet per second at the latitude of the old river control structure, and that includes both the flows of the mississippi and the red river. the basin floodway is designed to carry about half of that, about 1.5 million and the morganza is a major outlet which flows from the mississippi to go into the atchafalaya basin. so from the morganza and the red river flows and at maximum design flood would be designed to carry 1.5 million cubic feet per second. >> well, tom, we are talking about the different spillways which is a way to calm the river and perhaps test the levee less, but bottom line, the levees will be tested and all of the literature and articles i am reading that people are confident that the levees are going to hold, and you think new orleans and you think levees and my question s why is everyone so
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confident? >> well, you know, we have had high water on the mississippi before. certainly not at this levels. these are record flows. and every time you have a high water, you certainly have to go through a process of monitoring the levee systems. there's always some seepage to be expected generally in the earth and levee systems and you manage the process by inspecting the levees and inspecting the seepage wherever you find it to control pi control it. and so that the confidence of the levee system is borne in the fact that it has performed so reliably in the past. >> and it has not been tested like this in a little bit of time. retired major general thomas sands, and to you, major genera sams, thank you. seepage, to me, that seems like not a lot of water.
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are we to assume from what he's saying that the potential flooding -- >> no, the seepage could come from a breach in the levee where it would wash the levee out, it would be a catastrophic flood going one way or the other. also, it could go under in what is called a sand boil or mud boil, and it is easy to look up on google, find out what it is, pressure of water forces itself under the levee, under the other side and it will wash out if not watched and checked. >> thank you for clarifying. chad myers, thank you. they were the generation that was going to change the world and do everything little bit different and a little better. now those baby boomers are retiring and will they do that better too? up next, one boomer who is living the good life on a basic budget. building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience.
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well, here is a question that may keep some of you up at night. will i still be able to have the same lifestyle once i retire? this week, we're looking at the challenges facing the first wave of baby boomers as they hit the age 65. poppy harlow introduces us to one woman who found the secret to retirement on a budget.
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>> reporter: marilyn lassiter takes great pride in her work at this philadelphia library. >> did my book come in yet, dear? >> reporter: at 70 years old, she swears she's living the good life. >> it is amazing the freedom of not having to be some place at a certain time. >> reporter: marilyn retired back in 2007, right before the economy soured and millions found themselves out of work. despite living on a fixed income, she was able to buy a new house and she travels extensively. >> i live on $3500 a month. >> reporter: is it tight? is money tight or no problem covering your bills, plenty to spend? >> no problem. no problem. i don't spend. at a certain time in your life, there is nothing that you should need. >> reporter: did you pass down your theory on the importance of saving to your kids? >> yes, i did. when they were little guys i would give them 50 cent a week when they were young. they had to save a quarter and they could not understand that.
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but i was running the ship. >> reporter: it was a lesson that wasn't lost on her son chad. >> is this a new suit? >> it is not a new suit. >> what did your mom teach you that you really took away? >> the importance of saving, but also more importantly the importance of making sure that you have a safeguard in place in the event something emerges, like the most recent great recession. >> reporter: but marilyn doesn't think that frugality should only be taught at home. she believes retirement savings should be supported by employers and schools. >> when you're hiring young people, start off with workshops on retiring. some decisions that you make when you first start your career you would not have made it or waited for it. >> reporter: you think we need more education early on? >> yes, i would like to see it in high school, really, about retirement. >> reporter: but with so many seniors living longer, surviving on a fixed income can be a challenge. marilyn's secret, identify what
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you need, not what you want. >> it is incumbent upon each individual to do their own saving. you don't have to have that particular article that you just are obsessing over. take your time. go home, sleep on it, come back. do you really need it? >> reporter: poppy harlow, cnn money, philadelphia. chris christie keeps saying no, but many supporters keep saying yes. they want the governor of new jersey to run for president. who is chiming in now? be right back. it's true. you never forget your first subaru.
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want to check in with paul stein houser in washington with the latest news hot off the political ticker. we have an announcement coming up wednesday. >> yeah, we got somebody jumping in and somebody staying out, brooke. i'm talking about the race for the white house who is jumping in, newt gingrich, former house speaker, on wednesday, he'll announce he's candidate for president of the united states. he'll do it, where else, but on twitter and facebook page. good reporting earlier today from kevin bon on newt gingrich becoming a candidate who is staying out or still staying out, that's chris christie, the governor of new jersey, who is kind of a rock star among republicans. there seems to be a hunger for him to run. a bunch of iowa republicans are headed to new jersey later this month to urge christie to run. here is what he said in a radio interview this morning. you got to feel in your heart you want to be president more than anything else and i'm not there right now. that's chris christie, still staying out. back to you.
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>> still saying thanks, but no thanks. paul steinhouser, thank you. now rolling on, top of the hour, watch this. thousands leaving behind everything they own as epic floodwaters threaten cities across the country. in the next 24 hours, they're critical. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. an emergency chief in tennessee blaming evil for the rising river. but as crews race to fight the waters, new questions about how they're waging the war. >> you're deciding who gets flooded and who doesn't? >> we'll take you to that flooded spot live. scary moments on board an american airlines flight. a passenger bangs on the cockpit door just before passengers and crew take him down. and he has a connection to yemen. plus, summer driving season is close. and $4 gas averages are even
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closer. find out why you can soon get relief at the pump very soon. who gets bin laden's bounty? several politicians offering up their own idea on how to split it? welcome back to "cnn newsroom." let's talk mississippi river. right now, it is the deepest it has been, near memphis, in 74 years. and keep in mind, it has not reached its peek yet. the water is flowing past enough, listen to this, to fill a football stadium, 44 feet deep in one single second. that has cities and towns from memphis to new orleans bracing for the worst case scenario. we have already watched the u.s. army corps of engineers blow up that levee, flooding some 130,000 acres of form land in missouri to save a town in illinois. now, today they opened floodgates just northwest of new orleans. the goal there is to calm the rising river and reduce all the
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stress, the pressure on the levees. but if one of those levees fails, we could be facing a real disaster. david mattingly live in memphis there, in the thick of things in the water there. i understand where normally i guess it is half a mile wide, the mississippi, it is now three miles across. so talk to me about what you're seeing and when they even think that this river could crest there. >> we're only looking for this river to come up just a couple of more inches and we're looking for that to happen sometime tomorrow morning. this river really is just about done encroaching on the city of memphis. you mentioned how big the river is, going to give you a look right now, it is not -- from the half mile mark, now what it looks like at three miles. this is what it looks like now, looks more like the mississippi sea instead of the mississippi river. but what the amount of water that we have been seeing coming in is actually been affecting memphis, not in the downtown area, like where i'm standing
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right now, the downtown area is high and dry, but what we're seeing is the tributaries on the mississippi. they can't empty their water into this river anymore because it is so high. so those rivers have been backing up, causing flooding in different parts around memphis, some isolated areas. it has been covering some roads, it has been getting to some neighborhoods. we have seen a couple of trailer parks almost completely inundated and at this point, we got a little over 300 people in shelters and they're probably going to be there for a little while, brooke, because it only took days for this water to come into memphis. it will take weeks for it to go out. >> now, you mentioned before there is this huge barbecue festival, right? you think of memphis, barbecue, beale street. how close is that water encroached upon those areas and what are they doing about the huge festival coming into town? >> well, may is a huge tourism time for memphis. and that barbecue festival is
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always big. it is internationally known. they hold it down this way on the riverfront, but you can see the river encroached upon that. they made a decision earlier last week to move it. they moved it to dry land. they moved it to a stadium. it won't be down here on the riverfro riverfront. they're still saying it is still going to be open. beale street is still going to be open. the party is still going to be going on. public officials are kind of nervous because they see all of this on television and they're worried what affect that will have on their tourism. they have been out, they have been aggressively pointing out the fact that we are still open for business, we're still -- the party is still going on here, and memphis is not shut down by a long shot. that's partially thanks to the great levee system they have here and they say they have a great deal of faith in that levee system. it was built with the flood of 1938 in mind and now that -- all that work and that planning is paying off. >> right. after all that massive flooding
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in '37. david mattingly, thank you. want to bring in chad myers. david said it won't crest until tomorrow morning, couple more inches to rise. the next chapter if you will, is folks down river. what are we looking for next? >> we're not looking for that water to recede by an inch in memphis, for three days. so we talk crest. we think of flash flooding. the water is up, and then three minutes it is down. it is not going to happen like that. >> he said weeks. >> weeks before all of this will go away. weeks before farmers can plant. this is the bottom river. this is the most fertile part of america because it has been flooding for centuries if not millenn millennia. that's why all this stuff is there. >> what is the catalyst? a lot of precipitation over the last couple of weeks? >> yes, and yes. one more thing too, there was a lot of snow this winter and the snow was up there waiting to melt and nebraska, iowa, kansas, all those places, all that snow waiting to melt and then it got rained on. 20 inches of rain over the past three weeks.
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talked about the tornados that happened. well, tornadoes don't happen without rain. all of those weather systems that we talked about that devastated so many lives put this slow moving devastation on to the ground. 20 minutes ago we talked about the bonnia carrie spill way. here is new orleans right here. here is where it flooded for katrina, back up here is where the water came in from pontchartrain this is what it looked like in april of 2008 when they last opened up this spill way. all of this mud and muck and debris and i don't even want to go with the rest of the stuff, overflowing sewage and spill ways and just pesticides and fertilizer, all getting into lake pontchartrain. all these fish that were here are scooting out as fast as they can possibly get out of here and let's hope they all get out. otherwise, this will poison a lot of this lake. for a little while. it will all come back, because
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this happens, this flood happens even without the spill way opening, it could happen and it did happen, hundreds of times over the past millions of years. but this is not a great event for lake pontchartrain. we'll get to that in a little bit. >> we're talking tar balls last year. this year, pesticides and mississippi flooding. chad myers, thank you. we'll talk more about this. we have what's happening coming up covered. we're looking back in illinois. governor pat quinn ordering another 200 national guard troops to the flood zone. the governor just took a tour of some of the worst hit areas in his state as crews are monitoring the levees in illinois. he will join me live with a quick debrief. that's coming up. also this, this major scare in the air. an american airlines passenger gets up, pounds on the cockpit door before other passengers and the crew can take him down. we are now hearing precisely what happened and why he is connected to yemen. we'll get you a live report on that next. plus, a pretty stunning development here in the hunt for a serial killer in new york. investigators just this afternoon calling this unexpected news conference.
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was held until the flight arrived at sfo. >> that man has a yemeni passport. he is still being held. it was a strange day all around in the skies. yet a delta flight from detroit to san diego made an unexpected stop after a flight attendant discovered a suspicious note in the plane's lavatory. the fbied me with t ed fbi met it landed. then from chicago to houston, a man described as unruly made a break for the emergency exit. the unidentified offender was left with the feds at an unscheduled stop in st. louis. this harrowing scene we told you about before, it happened on a flight from chicago. but the plane wasn't actually dive diverted. as you heard the man say, the police say, the man who allegedly rushed the cockpit was handcuffed. you can quickly -- there he is in the back of the patrol car. as we have been reporting, he had a yemeni passport.
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thelma gutierrez is live in los angeles. this suspect, we know his name and is he still even in custody? >> brooke, yes. his name is regit, 28 years a resident of vallejo, california. he is in fbi custody. he could be charged later today with interfering with the flight crew which is a federal offense. one law enforcement told cnn that he had no known links to a terrorist organization, but appeared to have mental problems. >> do we know how far into the flight this guy gets up and starts rushing the cockpit? >> yeah. witnesses aboard that american flight from chicago to san francisco say that everything appeared to be normal, brooke, until the plane began to descend about 30 minutes before landing. that's when is wiwitnesses say walk into the first class cabin and approached the cockpit door
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and pounded on it mumbling something, possibly in arabic. when he refused to leave first class, the flight attendant called for help. a male flight attendant and several passengers helped restrain him. according to the san francisco chronicle, one was a retired secret service agent, the other, an off duty police officer. now, after that altercation, he was transported to a local hospital where he was treated for abrasions to his face and arm and now he's back in federal custody. >> okay. still frightening. thelma gutierrez, thank you very much for that. also, some new information here, a lot of new information this hour in the search for a possible serial killer. it appears investigators are dealing with more than one killer in the discovery of at least nine sets of human remains on long island and they say the area appears to be a long time dumping ground for bodies. steve kardian is a former new york state police detective g to ha have you on here.
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the suffolk county district attorney cautioned today, look, this is not an investigation. this investigation is not an episode of "csi," it will take a long time to solve the case. it sounds like it got more complicated because it sounds like there is more than one killer and more than one modus operandi. >> they were looking from the beginning of this investigation that the possibility existed that there was more than one killer. so, yes, now it does complicate it. the good thing is that they are locating these bodies. the fbi is going to be doing some very sophisticated aerial photographing to try to identify other bodies. they have 125 federal state and local police officers working on this case. it will take a long time to solve this. it is en route. >> it is very different, especially from the four female victims found back in december and then the d.a. described today these two females were found today, or shouldn't say females, just their heads and their hands were found today, separate from finding the other pieces of their bodies some
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years ago. also interesting, the killer tried to remove one of the women's tattoos, i guess to hide her identity. so, steve, what do you glean from that information? >> well, this is a very smart individual that we're dealing with here. by dismembering, by the attempting to remove the tattoo, the young woman you're speaking of, jessica taylor, was killed in 2003 and subsequently identified through her tattoo, to the authorities in washington. so we have a man trying to cover up every possibility that could tie him back to this specific crime, including the mutilation of their bodies and using prepaid cell phones and making phone calls from a very, very crowded area. >> so help me understand, if this killer tries to remove a tattoo, and he's also removing a head, going to great lengths as you say, intelligent, so they
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don't find him, because they don't want this woman to be identifiable, is that correct? >> yes, yes. he is -- he is going and taking every measure to ensure that he cannot be linked specifically to any of these crimes. >> the d.a. -- go ahead. >> the specifics -- the area that the bodies are being found, if you could pick a perfect -- a more perfect dumping spot, very familiar with this area, i've been down that road, no reason for any person to drive or at the very least jog in that area. it is a very secluded area, good spot for concealing a body or anything. >> that's pretty -- exactly what the new york d.a. said. it appears the area has been become a popular dumping ground for bodies. is it just great because they assume they can't be found. would they be linked or is it just coincidence? >> it appears now they're looking at this case as more than one killer, that could be two, three, it could be it is a
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good popular dumping grounds. this area if you're familiar with it, it is highly densely wooded,very difficult to manage your way through. law enforcement is having a very difficult time searching that area and it would be an ideal place because there would be no reason for anyone to be in that specific area. >> and so quickly, though, in terms of -- in terms of more of a profile for the serial killer, that furthers what had been guessed before that this individual is highly intelligent. >> law enforcement, the profile that they have created for him is that he's highly intelligent, organized, he likely lives a very normal life outside of this, he is a sadistic individual. he likely tortures these poor women before he disposes of them. we're dealing with an intelligent, very deranged individual. >> i have no words. steve kardian, thank you very much for hopping on. more coming out on this story, thank you. as the feds race to dig through the intelligence found
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now to stories unfolding now. let's go, developing now, officials south of the border say a shootout on falcon lake left 12 suspected members of a mexican drug gang dead as well as one member of the mexican navy. falcon lake straddles the u.s./mexico border in texas. it is where a woman says her husband was shot last september. pakistan set something ground rules for u.s. investigators who want to question osama bin laden's wives. here is one of them. three were captured at his compound last sunday. a senior intelligence source tells cnn pakistan will allow the u.s. to question the wives only if their country of origin gives the okay. pakistan says bin laden's family members will be sent to their home countries once they're interrogated. a violent weekend in egypt, has nothing to do with all the political upheaval that ended the presidency this past year. those are the crowds of coptic christians battling crowds of muslims in cairo. two groups threw rocks, firing
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shots at one another, rioting erupted after word spread that a muslim convert was being held in a church against her will. 12 people were killed, more than 200 injured there. ceos getting paid a lot more money these days. look at these numbers. according to a wall street journal report out today, chief executives of some of the biggest u.s. companies got an 11% increase in pay in 2010 over 2009. who cashed in the most, you ask? well, ceo of viacom who made a whopping $84 million in 20 10r1 double than 2009. space shuttle "endeavour" has a new launch date, one week from today. mark your clocks, 8:56 a.m. nasa, they scrubbed the initial launch because of an electrical problem, one of the heaters, we're told that gabby giffords
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will be back to watch her husband, mark kelly, command the "endeavour's" final mission. i couldn't wait. i haven't seen you. i love you. >> hi, mom. >> i love you so much. oh, my god. i'm so happy. >> surprise. happy mother's day. conner is biking across america to raise money for the fund while on vacation from his tour of duty. while on his 3300 mile journey he stopped by his hometown to wish his mom a happy mother's day. she had not seen him since december of 2009. now for your cnn equals politics update. let's go mark preston with the latest news from the political ticker. mark good to see you. >> good to see you. i have to acknowledge i did not remember who gave my high school commencement speech, let alone my college commencement speech. there are three high schools out
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there vying to have president obama come and speak to them. 4 the schools are booker p. washington in memphis, bridge port in washington state and high tech high school in san diego. these are three schools that really came to the top of the class of many schools that were trying to get the president to come out and give their commencement. any should learn this week, brook, who is actually the winner. to learn more, go to and look at the great report by cnn's sally howling. president obama will have a new advocate on the campaign trail. debbie wasserman schultz was elected the dnc chair last week. her goal is to be go out and raise as much money as possible and try to fire up the troops. i spent some time with congressman schultz last week, a story up on, an excellent read to find out what drives the mother, this
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44-year-old mother of three. she'll give up much of her life to get the president elected. >> you don't remember your commenceme commencement speaker? >> for high school, not even for junior high. >> high school, yeah, never mind. i remember college, but not high school. thank you, mark preston, appreciate it. how much do you spend on gas every month? you'll find out whether you're shelling out the same cash as other americans, also there is word that gad prices cou s cgao dramatically very soon. arizona governor jan brewer has a new plan to fight the obama administration, but will it work? that's next. ♪ [ male announcer ] in 2011, at&t is at work, building up our wireless network all across america.
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aaa is saying the national average $3.96 a gallon. little more relief might be coming in the next few days because oil last week took a big hit. and so the lundberg oil survey this morning argued that gas prices may have peaked and we could see a 10 to 20% decline. >> so $3.96 the average now. i know you also have some more numbers that show exactly how much people are paying for gas every month. how much is it? >> the average household, they're spending $368 on gas every month. that's from the oil price information survey done exclusively for $368, that's double what we were spending two years ago when gas prices were in the range of $2 a gallon. well, 368 bucks, you could buy two ipod nanos or a plane ticket from new york to l.a.
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and you certainly could not drive that distance on 368 bucks. >> that's what i was thinking. l.a.x. to lga for that price. allan chernoff, thank you so much. now developments here that we have learned just minutes ago about the many wives of osama bin laden. let's go straight to d.c. to brian todd. brian, now we can put some names to some faces? >> that's right, brooke. u.s. officials have confirmed to us the identities of the three wives with osama bin laden at the compound when he was killed. one of them is amal al sadah. officials believe that passport photo you see there that was found at the compound is her. she had a daughter with bin laden named sofia shortly after 9/11 and sofia told pakistani officials she saw her father being shot. amal al sadah is yemeni and the youngest wife. another wife in the compound, according to a u.s. official, khairiah sabar, they were
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married in 1985, a saudi national who stayed with bin laden in afghanistan after 9/11. and there was a wife named siham sabar, the mother of bin laden's son khalid killed in the raid. she's also a saudi who stayed with bin laden in afghanistan after 9/11. the national security adviser told cnn the u.s. has requested access to them. no response as of yet. the pakistanis do say -- a senior pakistani intelligent source tells cnn pakistan will allow the u.s. to question or take into custody the wives, but only if their country of origin has been asked for permission. it is not clear if that's happened yet. >> that is one very clear condition we're learning about today. brian todd, thank you for that. finally here, rafael romo with me. we're learning information about
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arizona's governor jan brewer, she's taking her immigration fight to court. >> it is known as the toughest immigration law in the land. now governor jan brewer says she'll go all the way to the supreme court. last year it was approved in the arizona legislature. then it was -- a federal judge issued an injunction against this law. just last month, the ninth circuit court of appeals basically upheld the ruling and this afternoon less than two hours ago, governor brewer said that they're going all the way to the supreme court and this is what she had to say. >> if nothing more than doing the job that the feds won't do. we believe the ninth circuit, i believe at least the federal court was wrong, the ninth circuit court was wrong and now in order to get quick resolve, we'll take it to the supreme court. >> and, brooke, this is basically going to be a fight between the states and the federal government.
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the main argument that arizona is making is that they're doing this because the federal government is not enforcing immigration laws, so they have no other alternative. and the federal government is saying, well, it is always -- it has always been our jurisdiction to enforce immigration law. just to put it in perspective i was looking at some numbers about the arrests at the border of illegal aliens and they're going down in last five year, back in 2006, there were more than 1 million arrests at the southwest border, the border with mexico. now it is down to about 450,000. >> 450,000. the president will be in el paso tomorrow, correct? >> he'll be in el paso. he'll talk about border security and he is expected also to address this issue. >> okay. rafael romo, thank you very much. nearly three years ago, a toddler goes missing, her mother didn't tell a soul. months later after a frantic search, caylee anthony's body was found.
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today, her mother's murder trial begins. but this case is considered so high profile, wait until you hear the lengths they're going to find an impartial jury. find out why casey anthony started crying in court. sonny hostin all over this one. what's this option? that's new.
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imagine being chosen for a jury in a trial that is so high profile, the judge predicts it
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will get more news coverage than the o.j. simpson trial. more than 100 potential jurors are facing that prospect now in florida. jury selection began today in the trial of casey anthony who was charged with murdering her 2-year-old daughter caylee. sonny hostin is on the case. wow. talk about the great lengths that they're going through to try to put together this jury and an impartial jury for this particular case. the judge didn't announce where the jury would be chosen until this morning. why tampa st. pete being selected sneer. >> it is demographically similar to orange county where the crime allegedly took place. very similar types of jury pools. we did just find out this morning, it is a very new courthouse, sort of a state of the art courthouse, can feed video, so the perfect place really, brooke, to pick a jury. what was so interesting though today is judge perry explained to the jurors what a hardship it could be to be chosen for the jury.
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they get chosen in pinellas county, but then they get bused back over to orlando into orange county, over 100 miles away, they get to stay in a hotel for almost two months, could be longer, they can't see their families, they may see their families on a sunday, they can't watch television, they can't talk to anyone about this trial, quite a hardship, but a pretty good choice, i think, in trying to pick an impartial jury. >> also, i read that more than 400 different people were called in from the jury pool. you're the expert here, is that an unusually high number? >> not for a case like this. i mean, we're talking about a case that received such media attention, this judge says in his 30 some odd years in the system, he's never seen anything like this. today he was expected to interview about 110 perspective jurors. he got through about 45 so far, brooke. out of the 45, almost 50%, over 50% actually have already been excused for hardship.
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so that number, 400, he may get through it before he finds the 12 jurors and eight alternate jurors that will pass judgment on casey anthony. >> so help me understand this process. put yourself, you know in the judge's shoes, you're interviewing the different potential juror candidates. what are the questions you're asking, what are you looking for in each juror? >> well, you want a juror to be fair and impartial. that's the bottom line. i don't think you can probably find a juror who has been living under a rock and hasn't heard about the casey anthony case. you want someone open minded, sort of someone that can push aside the fact that it has received such media attention, someone without preconceived notions. i was thinking, this is a trial in florida in the summer. you're looking at retirees, looking at probably teachers, you're looking at folks unemployed, looking at students that can sit judgment for almost two months or longer. i think you probably want someone that is a teacher, someone educated, a lot of scientific evidence, no one that
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has very young children or no one that has a child the age of casey anthony's. so pretty tough pick, i think. >> tough pick, thus the reason why the judge dismissed, as you said, 50% of the candidates so far. we also noticed that casey anthony, sonny, was crying this morning. do we know what prompted that? >> she sure was. she started crying. i was watching the trial, the jury selection, she started crying when the judge read sort of the fact sheet of this case, read the indictment. tears, such emotion, in my experience, brooke, oftentimes when these defendants get there, it is show time. they can't believe that this is actually happening. sort of judgment day, people are being traipsed in to pass judgment on them and i think it hit her, we saw her crying for a large portion of the morning. >> reality sinking in. sonny hostin, thank you very much. and since it is music monday, we have got a special treat for you. i got to interview one of my
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absolute favorite bands and the conversation got personal. baby boomers have pull in this country. just consider the things they get to enjoy. gadgets, cars, music. and especially the music. coming up next, the tunes that defined the generation as first baby boomers turn 65 this year. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. introducing better car replacement, available only from liberty mutual insurance. if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy a car that's one model year newer, with 15,000 fewer miles on it. there's no other auto insurance product like it. better car replacement, available only from liberty mutual.
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this week, right here in the cnn newsroom, we're talking baby boomers because the first wave of them is turning 65 this year. for a lot of americans, no conversation on this top sick complete without a soundtrack. here is kareen wynter with a look at the tunes that defined an entire generation. >> reporter: when the needle dropped on the 1960s, millions of baby boomers were just coming of age. they were destined to live through some incredible musical moments. ♪ she loves you yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ >> reporter: the beatles hit u.s. shores in 1964, triggering a sensation with songs like "she loves you." their impact on the culture was profound, according to billboard magazine's phil gallow, co-author of "record store days". >> the teenage audience was looking for something that they could call their own. and it just sparked mania.
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>> reporter: the mania continued when another british import reached america. ♪ time is on my side yes, it is ♪ >> reporter: "time is on my side" was the rolling stones first single to crack the top ten. and more hits quickly followed. remember these favorites? paint it black, satisfaction, countless boomers bought the 45s and played them on their turn tables. as the stones were getting rolling, a home grown artist was emerging as an important voice. ♪ the answer is blowing in the wind ♪ >> reporter: bob dylan's early performances are captured in the martin scorsese documentary "no direction home." gallow says dylan's influence should not be underestimated. >> i wgreatest rock song of the '60s, like a rolling stone.
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the way he wrote, challenged political morets, it made rock and roll grow up in a hurry. >> reporter: meanwhile, out of detroit came the young aretha franklin who demanded -- ♪ respect >> whether it is a chain of fools or respect, these songs become anthems and become anthems in a hurry. >> reporter: as the '60s progressed, the counterculture flourished and music was an inseparable part of it. the beatles, the doors and jefferson airplane explored psychodelia. other artists confronted racism and the vietnam war. graham nash of crosby stills nash and young remembers a sense of idealism. >> we felt like we could help change the world, that we could bring subjects to the minds of people that they never thought about. >> reporter: the decade was capped by an event that would come to define the entire era,
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woodstock, a documentary about the festival captured spectacular performances, none more powerful than by jimi hendrix. ♪ excuse me while i kiss this girl ♪ >> reporter: carlos santana played his first major gig there. he sums up not just woodstock, but what the music of that time was about. >> we weren't thinking about some superficial nonsense. we were talking about making a change, an unprecedented change of consciousness in this planet. >> reporter: that idealistic wish may be the lasting musical legacy of the baby boomers. kareen wynter, cnn, hollywood. >> some awesome music, huh? coming up tomorrow, boomers helping seniors. so many people in this generation will have to care for an elderly parent, even as they approach retirement age themselves. speaking of music, i'm letting you in on a little secret here, i'm a huge lover of music. we're starting something new here, hash tag music monday.
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i got to sit down with a group i have been listening to for a couple of years now. and they just released, may have heard of them, a new album called "the king is dead." now, not a lot of people realize, here he is, lead singer colin malloy, has a 5-year-old son with autism, henry, hank. the decemberists new song rise to me was inspired h ed by his . listen. >> hank was diagnosed with autism when he was 2 1/2 and right around the time we were starting to record. and i think the first year was sort of like a, an experience of just trying to figure it out and, you know, looking at therapies and learning about it. ireally processing it until i started
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working on songs for this record and that song in particular was just really an exploration of -- sort of a conversation, i think, between the three of us, my wife, carson and hank. >> he talks quite a bit more about it. we're posting that whole interview for you to see, the raw interview, sitting next to bassist nate, you can watch that interview and more of that show. we have a couple of songs we'll share with you. go to my blog, now this. >> the woman who claims she was gang raped by moammar gadhafi's men has pulled off a dramatic escape from libya. found out how she fooled the libyan forces and the surprising person who helped her. [ male a] in 2011, at&t is at work, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience.
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the libyan woman who accuses moammar gadhafi's troops of locking her up, beating and raping her has fled now to another country. this is video exclusive to cnn of the woman in tunisia shortly after she crossed from libya a couple of days ago. she says she ran for her own safety, she was helped across the border by a defecting libyan army officer, and a cnn crew
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today spoke to her mother and father who are both delighted yet cautious. >> translator: as a father, i was really happy. i was overjoyed. we're looking forward to seeing her, but we're not sure if she's safe. >> translator: when i heard the news, i felt like any mother would when she receives happy news about her daughter escaping. she was able to leave, but i don't know if the news is true or not. >> she tells us the legal proceedings in a rape case have not progressed much at all and she was not able to return to her home to libya. we did learn today she is in qatar, being protected by international diplomats there. coming up, who gets the osama bin laden bounty? you remember the u.s. offered some $25 million for his capture? now several politicians are pitching their ideas about how to split up the millions. that's next. losing weight clicked for me when i realized
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perhaps you've forgotten, perhaps you haven't, the united states put a bounty on osama bin laden, multiple millions of dollars for information that would lead in his capture and/or death as it happened. let's go to joe johns in washington. joe johns, if we're talking at least $25 million, something tells me that is quite a bit of change on the table, someone has to want it. >> actually, it is even more than that. there is another $25 million to be awarded at the discretion of the secretary of state. and the question is, you know who is going to get that money.
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remember gary brooks faulkner, this is -- heard that name? this is a guy from colorado who went over to pakistan with a samurai sword and pistol to find bin laden. he's one of the people that thinks he deserves this money. we're talking about just a lot of money. and a couple of members of congress from new york have actually said that as far as they're concerned, that money ought to go to first responders, the families of 9/11 victims and so on. let's listen to what they said in news conference yesterday. >> these programs are ones that desperately need funding, that are still every day dealing with the ramifications of september 11th. hopefully they will benefit from this reward money. >> it was allocated to -- for 9/11 victims in effect and this is simply saying use it more effectively for the purpose that it was set up in the first place. >> knnow actually the airline pilots association offered an additional $2 million reward.
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we called them today, haven't heard back from them. i have to say the white house, jay carney, the spokesman said as far as he's concerned, he doesn't believe anybody is going to get the money because no one intentionally alerted the united states as to the whereabouts of osama bin laden. so up in the air pretty much. >> wait, back to gary faulkner, it all came back when you said samurai sword, how is he claiming, how is he claiming some sort of justification in getting the money? >> it is pretty incredible stuff. he's claiming he flushed bin laden out. called and tried to reach him today, but didn't get him. faulkner did an interview with wls radio. he's claiming bin laden was precisely, he says, where he said bin laden could be found. he also claims bin laden was not in that compound for years as has been reported. let's listen to some of that tape. >> he was flushed out of exactly where i said he was at and stuff. the thing is that the man was very well in the mountains and everything else and needed to be
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brought out. what his downfall was having to move before he was ready to. because he was flushed out, once his movements were made, that's what actually took him right where he was at. >> all right. >> i know. hang on. we have less than a minute. i have to ask, how, pray tell, was bin laden flushed out because of faulkner? >> you know, a lot of things about gary faulkner are just not that clear. he claims he actually went by the house in abbottabad, keeps saying nothing happened in pakistan until he went there and so on. it sounds like this isn't complete a joke. apparent ly he called the fbi ad asked what he needs to do to get the reward money. they told him to go online and fill out a form. >> joe johns, thank you. thank you very much. we'll see you back here tomorrow. that's is for me. let's go to wolf blitzer who, by the way, is live in munich.


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